one, get us ingee independent, north america energy independent. that creates 4 million jobs. two, open up more trade, particularly in latin america. crack down on china if and when they cheat. number three, make sure our people have the skills they need to succeed. and the best schools in the world. we're far away from that now. number 4, get to us a balanced budget. number 5, champion small business. it's small business that creates the jobs in america. and over the last four years, small business people have decided that america may not be the place to open a new business. >> people hear that, there is no stuttering, there is no i'm not really sure what i'm talking about here. these are the five things he believes it. there was a lot of conviction that he conveyed last night. >> and i wanted to write all those lists down and a bunch of post its and stick them all over bob beckel's body. he was asking for specifics. you have to pass it on. >> let me say -- >> those are specifics. what exactly makes you think he can deliver on any of that? >> because he's actually someone wit